Happy New Year! These are links gathered from December 22nd-31st, 2022 related to Presuppositionalism/Presuppositional apologetics! Enjoy! 1.) …Late December 2022 Presuppositional Apologetics’ Links
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eVideNce fOr eVoLutiOn!!!!
Well, Christians, after 2000 years it’s time to pack it up. It was a good run for Christianity, but it’s over. A modern day Chuck confirmed the 19th century Chuck’s theory of evolution with a link to an article that holds the smoking gun for naturalism. “Evidence for evolution is uNdeNiabLe!!!!”.
At least that’s the claim they are making.
Before we discard the only valid worldview that can justify the preconditions for intelligibility, let’s take a closer look at the claim of the evolutionists and cross-examine their assertions
Here’s the conversation on Twitter that led to the analysis of this peer-reviewed article. I challenged this particular God-denier to produce undeniable proof that creatures lacking a particular trait gained a new trait in an immediately subsequent generation via natural selection acting on random mutations. He posted this link to a peer-reviewed article on ScienceDaily from 2008.
Here are the 3 claims from that article that they assert is a demonstration of new traits that produced by natural selection acting on random mutations that previous generations did not possess:
- “Striking differences in head size and shape”
- “increased bite strength”
- “development of new structures in the lizard’s digestive tracts”
Let’s take their claims one by one to see if it is indeed an undeniable example of natural selection acting on random mutations to produce novel traits
Head Shape and Size
Just from the initial reading of the text, we see that a different size head is not a new trait. Variable sizes in existing structures (head, arms, legs, noses…) is not an example of evolution. In that same way that we see different domestic dogs breeds with different size heads (poodle, St. Bernard) but they are the same species, there is variability in the genes. There are people that are tall and short, big heads and small heads, long arms and short arms…but to claim that this variability within the same species is “evoLuTioN” is ridiculous. They might have helped their case if they had given some measurements before/after, but this vital piece of evidence is missing. The claim that “changes in head size” is an example of evolution is inconsistent, impotent, and unconvincing.
Increased Bite Strength
Again, just reading the text, we see that there is no new trait. I would have liked to go deeper into this radical claim from the authors, but apparently they recognize that their claim of “increased bite strength” as evidence for evolution is extremely weak because they gave no further validation of their assertions. No measurements. No differences. Just a claim. As with the head size claim, there’s no need to speak of this anymore as if it’s part of the “mountain of evidence” in support of evolution, because it’s just empty
New Structures in the Digestive Tract
That leaves the crushing weight of their claim firmly on the shoulders of this last “example of evolution”. Can it support the weight? Let’s see.
Tail clips taken for DNA analysis confirmed that the Pod Mrcaru lizards were genetically identical to the source population on Pod Kopiste
Genetically identical?!??! This is the 1st reason why their claim of “evoLuTioN” holds no water. If the DNA is identical, then there were no random mutations to produce a new trait. This is the fundamental assumption of evolution: At one time, the DNA instructions for traits (arms, lungs, wings, cecal valves…) DID NOT EXIST, but over time, the accumulation of mutations produced functional code that improved a creature’s reproductive fitness in a particular environment. Since there are no genetic differences, there’s no evolution. It is the same species. There are no DNA changes. By itself, this is enough to dismiss this article as “an example of evolution”.
These structures actually occur in less than 1 percent of all known species of scaled reptiles
These structures ALREADY exist in this species of reptiles. The new environment did not PRODUCE these structures. The new environment of the lizards was selection pressure on the lizards such that the existing DNA information for the production of these structures (cecal valves) was made manifest. Since the lizards already carried the instructions in their DNA to produce these structures, then there was no evolution that created these structures. It was the environmental stresses that caused these existing structures to be expressed. See epigenetics for more information. This second nail in the coffin simply ensures that the corpse of their claim cannot be revived
Lastly, I’ve been told by evolutionists that fitness is measured on populations and it must abide by the mutation rates. Now I have reason to doubt the mutation rates that have been published by evolutionists because of bad assumptions, but even if we accept the mutation rates that they propose, the formation of new digestion structures and the creatures ability to make use of the new digestive structures is impossible. From The National Center for Biological Information:
Simple calculations then show that the waiting time to improve one of these six of eight matches to seven of eight has a mean of 60,000 years. This shows that new regulatory sequences can come from small modifications of existing sequence
We have already shown that there were no mutations, BASED ON THEIR OWN ADMISSIONS, but even if we grant the possibility of mutations, the mutation rate is far too slow to have produced that necessary changes that they have proposed. They claim that the new structures appeared in 36 years, but the minimum time for even the smallest beneficial mutation to occur is sixty thousand years. By their own metrics, their claim is refuted.
It looks like the wild claim from the evolutionists was (again) long on assertions and short on evidence. There’s no reason after all to close down Christianity in favor of evolutionism. The claims by these evolutionists is not new or rare. You can see here other claims that evolutionists have made about the amazing powers of evolution are shown to be impotent when analyzed.
Apologetics Session 8: Evil and the problem of Atheism
Excellent Apologetics session. As Christians we must think biblically and not compromise with worldly philosophies
Establish the need: Why is this session important? We often hear discussion about God and the problem of evil. However we must not downplay or neglect the issue of evil and the problem of atheism.
Purpose: In this session we shall discuss four points to help us think about evil and the problem of atheism to realize that in wrestling with the problem of evil there is a problem with atheism.
- All worldviews have the burden of proof of explaining how evil exists
- Atheism undermine the existence of evil: What atheist have to say
- If God is the basis for determining good and evil then there is no problem of evil
God uses evil to bring about good
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If the Skeptic Annotated Bible think these are Bible contradictions then the Bible Contradiction list itself is a Contradiction
When applied against its own standard, the Skeptic Annotated Bible shows itself to be hypocritical. It cannot support the weight of its own claims
Yesterday’s post “What was Solomon’s payment to Hiram?” got me thinking about how ridiculous the Skeptic Annotated Bible’s claim was that there was a Bible contradiction with the two verses the website cited. Two passages with overlapping truths in which one verse happen to mention additional details than the other verse is a far stretch from it being a Bible contradiction.
This isn’t the first time the listing from the Skeptic Annotated Bible pull off a similar mistake. When I surveyed my Collection of Posts Responding to Bible Contradictions) I noticed the skeptic did the same thing with “What did the sign over Jesus’s head say?”
There’s a whole bunch of one with the skeptics attack on how many individuals there were for several events; see as examples (though not exhaustive): How many women came to the sepulchre?, How many men were possessed with demons at…
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Presuppositionalists in the Dock
This is an excellent analysis of the deficient objections against reformed apologetics and the answers to those objections
Internet gadfly, Jacob Brunton, believes presuppositional apologetics is maddening idiocy and any sound-minded believer who thinks presuppositionally and utilizes the methodology is a fool. He has taken to both Facebook and Twitter to rail against presuppers like myself.
Before we begin with a response to his missives, let’s remind ourselves of the main presup distinctives.
– Presuppositionalism desires to reform apologetic methodology. An apologetic approach that honors the sovereignty of God in salvation and the self-attesting nature of Scripture. It also focuses in upon the antithesis between believing and unbelieving thinking and philosophical worldviews. It then structures the Christian engagement with unbelievers according to a biblical framework. Classicists, like Jacob, will say they hold to the sovereignty of God in salvation, but they typically reject the self-attesting nature of Scripture and operate from the notion that proofs and evidence can be self-authenticating, as well as reasonably considered by unbelievers.
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Mid-June 2020 Presuppositional Apologetics’ Links
SlimJim continues his tremendous ministry the sharing links of various authors, who faithfully declare the gospel of Jesus. Below is just one of the thousands of valuable posts for people to continue to learn how to be faithful in their approach to sharing the gospel of Jesus!
Here are links related to Presuppositional Apologetics gathered between June 8th-14th, 2020.
1.) Ep. 75 – Finding Truth – Free-Loading Atheists – Part 2
2.) Officer Chauvin and the belief that morals are up to individual to decide
3.) Review – A Matter of Days – Chapter 19
4.) The Ponderous and Sure Proof for the Existence of God
5.) Christians Should Show Where Atheists Borrow From Them & What They Lose When Giving It Up
6.) Interview: Presuppositional Apologetics Applied to Competing Religions
Missed the last round up? Check out the re-blogged post from a friend OR that of Another REPOST HERE
Presuppositional Apologetics Believes in Evidence: Yet Five Ways its Different than Evidentialism
ALL evidence confirms God’s revelation in scripture!
If you’re not familiar with the Kingdom work done at “VeritasDomain”, you should check them out. Amazing work!
I hear too often people say Presuppositional apologetics don’t believe in evidence. That’s not true. Presuppositional apologetics does believe there’s a role for evidence in Christian apologetics.
But first off some might need to know what is Presuppositional apologetics in the first place. It might be helpful to listen to various different lectures on Presuppositional apologetics; check out our “Ultimate Collection of Free Presuppositional Apologetics Lectures.” Among the many lectures the ones I recommend would be Greg Bahnsen’s Van Tillian Apologetics and Jason Lisle’s one shot “Jason Lisle “The Ultimate Proof of Creation” Lecture at The Master’s Seminary”
Yet if Presuppositional Apologetics believes there’s a place for evidence how is a distinctly Presuppositional Apologetics’ approach different than the typical Evidentialism?
I can think of five ways.
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RTB and Speciation
If you are not familiar with the work done at “In His Image” blog, you should check it out. Good stuff!
My fellow blogger ApoloJedi has been doing a thorough debunking of Dr. Hugh Ross’s book A Matter of Days recently. Having never read the book, I’ve been following his review with great interest. His most recent review article brought up Ross’s critique of the young-earth view of speciation. While Ross’s view is laughably out of date, it got me thinking about how the Reasons to Believe (RTB) (Ross’s ministry) handles speciation. So I started digging into their website. Here is their view of speciation and why it does not work.
It is important to understand upfront that Dr. Ross and RTB do not accept the Bible as written. Rather they must eisogete the text to insert millions of years into the Scripture. They do this by claiming that the days in Genesis 1 are not literal twenty-four hours days. Instead, these days are supposed to be undefined long periods…
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What Makes Me Question Evolution?
Because God’s revelation in the Bible is incongruent with modern the academic paradigm of evolution, Christians should reject it. But since it is also a scientific dead-end, even naturalists should reject it.
“Mutations break things, they do not produce new information.”
“As I matured in Christ, I also began to understand the theological implications of deep time. I began to understand that if the earth was millions of years old, then God could not be good and Christ could not be the last Adam, nor could He save us from our sins. The theological implications of the evolutionary deep time were such that I could not accept it. Further, there was good scientific evidence that the rock layers that supposedly needed deep time to form, were formed much more rapidly, as a result of the flood. The Grand Canyon and the geological aftermath of Mount St. Helens stood out to me.”
Happy Question Evolution Day!
Editors Note: Today, February 12 is the birthday of Charles Darwin. Thus it is very appropriate that the Question Evolution Day falls on February 12th.
It’s that time of year again. It’s the time of year the evolutionists go into celebration mode as they honor the birth of their prophet Charles Darwin. International Darwin Day is February twelfth. It is therefore very fitting that the same day be used to question evolution which the priests and temples of Darwinism do their best not to permit. However, thanks to the freedom that the internet provides, dissent can still reach past the ivory towers of academia to the common people. And it is the common people, the ones the ivory tower looks down their noses at, who most strongly reject evolution.
As an outsider to the ivory tower, but someone who has read extensively in the scientific literature, I kind of have…
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Amazing new resource for Christians!
Theologetics.org has just released their free apologetic app (Theo Tab) that is now officially live on Apple & Google platforms (iPhones/iPads and Android devices). They’ve put a huge amount of hard work in this app and all they are asking is that we please share it with our friends!
To view the capabilities and resources that are available on this app just click on this link: https://theologetics.org/
This is really an outstanding Christian Apologetics tool so please take the time to check it out.
Here is the link for Apple devices:
And here is the link for Android devices:
Oh, and did I mention, the app is free!